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Suffering Well

In my sermon this weekend, I mentioned that the watching, unbelieving world sits up and takes note when Christians suffer differently than the rest of society. Our rejoicing amidst our adversities forms a profound argument for the truth of what we believe. I didn’t really have time to develop the reasons why I thought Paul and Silas suffered so well when imprisoned in Philippi, so I thought I would give you a couple of reasons here. I’ll post the first one today and the second one later this week…

Reason #1: They weren’t surprised by adversity, but expected it as part of following Jesus in a fallen world…

I have been musing lately about the subject matter of many Christian songs written in the last 10 years or so. I must admit that I am the furthest thing from an expert in this area, but it has been hard to miss the sheer number of popular songs I have heard recently about suffering and adversity. Certainly Christians throughout the ages have struggled to understand why so many bad things happen in a world where a good God is sovereign. This has probably been the most pressing challenge to Christian faith (just read the Psalms or Lamentations). But, for the most part, this question is more of a difficulty in times of great sorrow than in a time of great prosperity. What I find interesting is that we are living in a time of unprecedented prosperity, but the question is raised today as much as ever. People are wondering about suffering while living in homes larger than anyone has ever lived in before. Why is this?

Now, it is likely that one of the reasons is that we have access to more news today than ever before. It used to be the case that little was known about a war in Africa outside of those it was waged upon. Today, this is not the case. I can read about Darfur every day. I can watch video of the refugee villages or tanks firing on civilians on YouTube. Whereas suffering was something that I only knew about when I experienced it in days gone by, it is a subject that is at the forefront of my mind whenever I watch the news today.

But, I think there is more to it than just that. I think we have become so accustomed to comfort in the West that we are shocked when affliction strikes us. We assume that life can and should be a bed of roses, so we are genuinely surprised when it turns out to be more thorns than petals. David Wells, in his outstanding book The Courage to Be Protestant, puts it this way…

In the older world we left behind, people thought of adversity as inevitable. Adversity was a consequence of the fall for those of a Christian outlook. But even for non-Christians it was never seen as an unexpected intruder in life. It was never thought that life should be without pain. Pain, disease, setbacks, disappointments, and wrong done to us were all seen as part of our life in this world, part of its texture, a thread woven with all the other threads through the fabric of our daily experience. Adversity was seen, even, as a necessary component in life.

Today we resent adversity as an interruption in our pleasure seeking, a rude disruption of our opportunities and our sense of calm. It is a gross injustice. Why should bad things happen to good people? Where is the justice in that? We are entitled to better. Indeed, we are demanding better! Adversity of any kind is unacceptable.

When Paul and Silas sat in a prison cell in Acts 16, the victims of an unjust trial and painful beatings, I don’t think they were surprised to be there. In 2 Timothy 3:16, Paul wrote it plainly - “Everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.” They knew that to follow in the way of Jesus would mean experiencing many of the things that Jesus experienced.

So, to put it bluntly, I think one of the reasons we don’t suffer joyfully like Paul and Silas did is because suffering surprises us more than it did them. We aren’t convinced that it should happen, so when it does we are left paralyzed, asking “Why, why?” Or, to put it more positively, if we want to become the kind of people who suffer with uncommon joy, we must change our expectations about living in a fallen world that is hostile to God and His ways. We will suffer.

I’ll suggest another reason in a couple of days…

Jeff


Previous Comments

#1 from Nancy Williams on November 17, 2009

There are so many different kinds of suffering.
1)  Natural disaster or circumstances – causes suffering that is inflicted on us outside of our control. In the world my parents came from it was normal to suffer. My grandparents had 16 children; 10 died from illness due to lack of proper medication, food or the freezing cold weather with little or no heat. I agree we on the whole in this country have not known suffering to that degree. I admire people from this culture who forged through disaster after disaster and whose faith sustained them through unbelievable suffering. Today, I could name a few from Northview who for years have persevered through horrendous challenge. They are clearly testimonies to God’s prevailing presence and providence in their lives and they are people who suffer joyfully and I envy their spirit.
2)  Suffering as a result of religious persecution from the world – we do not experience that much in this county; maybe I’m just not seeing it. I think most of our suffering caused by persecution comes from within our own ranks. (My own observation.)
3)  Suffering that results from our own sin. This suffering can affect all of life and all who are in our lives. It is suffering that can produce guilt and ongoing sadness and the hopeless desire to do things over again. Unless one gets positive perspective on it this kind of suffering will always render powerlessness and keep us from experiencing God’s best in life.
4)  As I have already alluded to, suffering at the hands of others who call themselves by the name of God. This is the worst kind of suffering to experience; it is often unnecessary and unfair suffering caused by gossip, misinformation, lack of support, misunderstanding, lack of love, jealousy, paranoia, resentment etc. That kind of adversity because it comes from those who should support and uphold us, can be immensely crippling and take a long time to recover from and does not seem joyful at the moment but as someone once said, “joy comes in the morning”. (A great new book on this subject is called “Magnificent Obsession” by Anne Graham Lotz.) Unfortunately the watching world is also taking notes on how Christians treat each other and those observations aren’t good.

Suffering seems to have a common thread; really there seems to be no distinction between rich or poor; suffering seems to be relative. I believe that real suffering comes from lack of purpose or faith in God’s protection and providence. Two people might suffer from the very same circumstance; one will view their suffering as an opportunity to rely on God and thrive in the midst of it and one might turn from God and use the suffering as an excuse for withdrawing from God.
It’s of huge comfort to me to know that men and women of great faith both in the Old & New Testament and current positions of leadership have suffered possibly from all 4 scenarios. What is most interesting is to see what God does for and with people who suffer regardless of reason, depending on how they process it. Personal opinion: I don’t think God can make us into His vision of us without allowing the type of suffering that brings us to brokenness. Perhaps that’s why we in our culture suffer in different ways that other countries have not experienced.

#2 from Shaun on November 18, 2009

Mrs(ms?)Nancy Williams.

I have a question , and i am going to do my best to ask them within the confines of what is deemed civil and respectful. Now ive been following these blogs for some time, and when i post , its usually deliberate and for a reason. Most of the time just to be so brutally honest that it can be seen contrast relative what seems to be churchiness adherence. That is basically my reasoning… to come on say things that people dont normally say , and laugh and be dismayed that it is seen as odd…. cuz really it shouldn’t be. So that is why i am here….. i would like to ask a few questions about your reasoning though.

I ask this because i consider myself an analytical person who not only looks at what is said , but why it is said. Do you speak on these forums as often as you do out of personal desire , similar to me…. its just something you do because its something you enjoy? Or is it that you are posting because you believe inadecuacy present on part of those creating the initial blogs in some way requires someone ‘legitamite’ to respond? Just curious.

PS If it be the latter please remember the manner in which i wrote this was deliberate and formulaic…..if it is the latter… please do not fear saying so….. just expect a good ol fashioned stoning…. kidding….. or am i?

#3 from Nancy Williams on November 18, 2009

I realized this morning that I never really answered your question but because your post pushed some buttons I used it as an opportunity to dump, which is okay as long as it is not hurtful to anyone. It still wasn’t what you were looking for so this morning I thought further on this.
I read through Psalm 119. We don’t really know who wrote this Psalm but it is such a comforting Psalm, isn’t it, for those who suffer. We know that whoever wrote this psalm is suffering but is comforted by and strengthened by God’s word. I can’t say this author was suffering joyfully but at least peacefully.

When we study Paul’s life and his leadership style we know he was leading from the inside out. I believe he endures suffering so well because you can’t touch what’s inside; you can only destroy what is on the surface. As long as he was secure internally nothing could harm him. I think this is the peace that our security in Christ gives us. We are not always joyful in our circumstances but we can have peace; it’s an overwhelming calm that almost seems joyful. Ps 119:28 says “My soul melts from heaviness; strengthen me according to your Word”, and God does strengthen us when we include Him in our suffering.

I also wonder if perhaps the Apostle Paul saw this courage/peace modelled in others he persecuted; perhaps that caused contemplation and acceptance in his own suffering ...just a thought.

Anyway sorry for taking up so much space. I’m looking forward to your other reason.

Have a nice day!

#4 from Jason on November 19, 2009

Hi all, it seems to me that the reasons for why Paul suffered so well while beaten and in prison is that by all means he might save some. I don’t consider myself very well read in the books of the bible but I have picked up on a few verses that stand out to me concerning Paul and his faith.

Philippians 1:19 “for I know that through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance.”      In his letter to the Philippians, Paul shows us how much faith he has in the prayers of the Philippians.

Philippians 1:24-25 “But to remain in the flesh is more necessary on your account.Convinced of this, I know that I will remain and continue with you all, for your progress and joy in the faith.”    Here Paul seems to know God’s will. He knows that it is better for the Philipians that he remains in his body.

Philippians 1:29 “For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only belive in Him but also suffer for His sake”    Great verse.   

Romans 8:28 “And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to His purpose.”    He knows that this will turn out for the good in the end, since he is obviously called.


I think that in the context of the apostle Paul in all the New Testament, he wants to proclaim and advance the gospel at any cost….any cost. That is why I believe he suffers well, a demonstration of his faith in the Lord. I pray to God that He will raise up more and more men and women who will become all things to all people, that by all means they might save some.

#5 from tom wood on November 21, 2009

Do we suffer well my short answer is no we don’t, as a matter of fact no has be become a bad word and our children should not have to hear it. somehow we have come to the point of all we want is a pain free society. So if we want no pain how can we even begin to suffer? I believe we as a society and church have become like lepers,spiritual and moral values are falling off and we don’t even notice. We are comfortably numb and we like it for blessings should not be painful, should they? The scariest part for me is how bad do I have this? I like to think I suffer well but what standard am i measuring my suffering by? Is it by Jesus’s standard or mine?
For I believe we must suffer and feel pain for it is these very things that let me know I am alive.
In Phil.3 Paul talks about counting all things loss, that he may know Jesus, the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of his suffering that he may attain eternal life.
So in light of this there is alot of questions I can ask myself, do I measure up to this, can I suffer?, will I suffer? does Jesus really want me to suffer? etc
My answer is yes He does expect, it for he has shown me how to do it and Paul also became an example.So i must and will choose to do so and in it show my fellow man so that he too may see it and honor GOD in all he does. My prayer for all us in the church is we are found worthy and able in Jesus name amen.

#6 from adam on November 21, 2009

i agree Jason. and i think like Christ, Paul is over come by love. for Paul its the love for the God who has redeemed him, not by fear for those who hate will him. if only we were over come by that same love, oh what a church we would be.

#7 from Nancy W on November 27, 2009

There was a guest speaker on ‘It’s A New Day’ today;Serge LeClerc, MLA for Saskatchewan. He writes a book called, UNTWISTED: FROM LAWBREAKER TO LAWMAKER
“The inspirational true life story of one man’s riveting journey from the depths of darkness and self-destruction to respected politician, author, and sought after motivational speaker.”
Serge was:
•...a product of rape born in an abandoned building… into inner-city poverty…
•...incarcerated at age 8 into Canada’s most violent and brutal ‘reform school’ ... a chronic runaway - a ‘go-boy’...
•...gang leader… drug king-pin… and 20 year drug addict… one of Canada’s most-feared criminals…
•…cold and hardened…classified as one of Canada’s most dangerous convicts…over 21 years in prisons….

You have to read it! It’s a type of suffering that I have no idea about what so ever. He not only suffered horribly in his younger years, but as an older child and adult caused many others to suffer as well. In prison God changed his life. He went from uneducated with $149 in his pocket after leaving prison, to university to becoming an MLA for the Province of Saskatchewan. It’s an amazing story!
Happy reading.

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